Suggestions please

Hi guys and gals.

I've gotten a bit of flak for the way that I've been handling people contacting me to get their name of the blog.
The people who contact me and make a reasonable case for themsevles I am more than willing to take down. But people who dont have any way of backing up their claims need to do one of the following to get their post removed:
1. Apologize to the other player
2. Challenge the other player to a rematch.

My reasoning is that these are both easy and quick things to do. It helps redeem the player who "dc'd" while making it up to the player who submitted them to this site.

Anyway, a few people have said that this system isn't fair. I can't just take down posts of anyone because they tell me to, this blog would be empty if I did that. I dont know what to do in this matter so I'm looking for help here.

In the comment box let me know if you have any alternative suggestions, or even if you support the current system for handling people wishing to have their name removed.


In other news, no picture posts today, what with it being easter and all. Expect a huge daily miscellaneous tomorrow though.

26 comments:

  Dr.Graffin

April 12, 2009 at 1:36 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words. It's pretty hard to argue with a picture showing one person dc'ing as they are about to lose a second match, or the different pictures of hatemail people send.

People seem to be making excuses for their own behavior and questioning this site in the process. I wouldn't listen to them for a second.

  ShaperofStories

April 12, 2009 at 2:09 PM

Stay the course good buddy, you're doin' super!

I wonder, though...are you requiring the redemption seekers to send in pictorial proof of their apology/rematch invite? That's the way to go, seeing as how if one's inclined to d/c in the first place, they're probably inclined to lie about making amends for it as well.

Also, does the original d/c victim have to accept the rematch invite in order for the loser's sins to be fully resolved? I'd say the invite is enough of a penance since I would almost never accept one from someone who's raged out on me before.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 2:35 PM

i don't see how giving the other player a rematch redeems them from leaving to protect their BPs. especially since the rematch will, no doubt, be a player match. don't want to be up here, then don't leave matches.

  xFuUmAxMoNoUx

April 12, 2009 at 2:46 PM

The whole rematch thing isn't really fair. I mean, you can play some really good players and they will disconnect. You earned that win fair and square aganist a good player, and if you rematch and you lose it doesn't change the fact that the person disconnected.

A lot of the time that is what happens (at least it has happened quite a bit to me). You face someone that is great at the game and they disconnect to save their points. They know that 9/10 times they can beat you, so they can (or you) ask for a rematch anyways. If it so happens to be that 1/10 chance again and they are going to lose, they'll just pull the plug again. It's a lose lose situation for the person who got disconnected on the first time.

It is the same problem with an "apology." As long as they don't get caught, they'll continue to do it. TBH, even if they want to change, sometimes it is really hard and they even can't. I'm staff on a forum, and I knew someone who hated that he disconnected and such, yet he continued to do it. No matter how much he said he'd stop and really meant it, when push came to shove he'd still pull the plug. It's out of habit and addiction, no different than a drug.

It's a matter of show me over time before I believe you, because honestly, 95% of them are going to do the same thing again and again. Hell, even if there is a good system and they get banned for it. They'll just find away around it again.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 3:35 PM

I think none of the names should be taken down. But for those who have a reasonable case, maybe you can put them in a separate list or mark they names to, e.g., XXXX(redeemed)... something like that. I think having 2 separate lists would be fair, because it gives people more information about the players.

  dr3wby

April 12, 2009 at 3:43 PM

Don't take the names down. These people deserve to be on the blog because they bitched out and disconnected during a ranked match. No amount of apologizing or asking for a rematch will redeem them. If they have a problem being up on the site then they shouldn't have disconnected in the first place.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 3:48 PM

A rematch solves nothing unless it's a Ranked Match and the original quitter just stands there and takes the loss, thereby losing the BP and giving the deserved BP to the original winner.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM

I have to agree that if someone really wants to "apologize", then they should just set up a rematch where they just stand there and automatically lose the BPs they saved initially when they originally d/c'ed.

Put your BPs where your mouth is. If they set up the rematch and lose the BPs the second time around (and we have a picture to verify), then their name could potentially be removed, otherwise, an apology doesn't mean crap.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 7:54 PM

Why do these people deserve a chance to become anonymous again? That goes against the whole point of this site. Karma sucks when it comes back around. Deal with it.

  Adam Woz

April 12, 2009 at 8:23 PM

Remember guys, there are cases of people who have legit disconeects because of their isp.

  Masamune_Shadow

April 12, 2009 at 8:42 PM

I agree that the apologizing to the other player, and asking the other player if they would like a rematch is good etiquette and on the right step to... I guess "redemption" would be the right word.However, the disconnection has already happened; whether the dc was intentional or not.

If your on this site, and it you didn't pull the plug (internet went out, loose cord, power-outage WHATEVER), don't worry about it. You see those big blue names on the side of the screen? Those people are the ones who, at least I can say, are plug-pullers. I honestly don't care about the people who are only on here once. As far as I know it was a "fluke". But, your name is up here, so that should it happen again, the chances that you are a d/cer become even greater, and that's what matters.

Granted, this site is relatively new, and hopefully once championship edition comes out, we'll have a much, much, MUCH better and efficient system than this (D/C ratios, and Save replays).

Keep everything the same, add DC ratios if CAPCOM decides to implement them. Hope this site becomes Street Failer, that would be quite epic.

Also, Lol @ Anons.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 8:49 PM

Yeah, I'm sure there's just thousands of "legit" dc instances where the person is playing best of 3, they've already lost the first match, and have about 5-10% life left on their second round as they are about to lose again.

Anyone who is saying a dc under these circumstances is "legit" or is due to their ISP is full of shit. Yeah, I've experienced dc's but it's usually either before a match, sometimes during the first match, or in between matches, but never at the end of a 2nd or 3rd match as I'm about to lose. That's just crap.

And if we are dumb enough to believe this lie, then that could be said for all dc's. I guess they're all just honest dc's due to connection issues. Don't be so gulible. Dc's happen but not as a person is about to lose after making it through at least one round. After 1000+ matches, I've never had it happen.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 9:01 PM

Like others, I don't think you should take anyone's name off the list. You're serving as a deterrent and if people realize all they have to do is apologize and do a useless player match, they'll do it, get their name off the list and continue their bad behavior.

I've seen countless threads on other forums where people link to pictures on this site and maybe that sort of embarrassment will actually make a difference now. If you forgive and give an easy way out though, it won't.

Thanks for doing this though.

  xFuUmAxMoNoUx

April 12, 2009 at 9:13 PM

Well, I completely understand when you are talking about a "legit" disconnect. I don't really think that applies to what most people are talking about.

Regardless, if someone is amazingly about to lose, and a disconnect happens, it is intentional. The timing is way too good for their shitty connection to not disconnect any other time in the match except for when they are about to lose.

I agree completely though that people with legit disconnects should have a fair case, and their names have the chance to be taken off. However, you do a great job of filtering those that are questionable out and only posting ones that are WAY too coincidential/convinient to be legit.

  Anonymous

April 12, 2009 at 10:30 PM

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QnJCVJguxsE/ScLYiruuaOI/AAAAAAAAAGU/61TZgBjvgM0/s1600-h/dsc00120.jpg

  Anonymous

April 13, 2009 at 3:00 AM

First, look who's asking and search for his picture. Look how obvious it is. You can't argue it's a disconnect when it's right after they get hit by a fatal Ultra!

Some are arguable like the last two pics of 11/04/09 part 2, so if they ask and they do effort (like apology and rematch, even Player's) I guess you can take them off.

  Anonymous

April 13, 2009 at 3:01 AM

*You can't argue it's an accidental disconnect

  James

April 13, 2009 at 3:12 AM

It is true that people have genuine disconnects during fights, but as many have said, the timing for when the person is just about to lose really is just too conveniant to be true. Some have even used this as an excuse in hatemail, unfortunately for them it's easy to check their status as soon as they quit and I have caught more than one person who used the excuse on the dashboard and starting the game up again. I say leave the names up here and especially so for repeat offenders.

  Anonymous

April 13, 2009 at 5:44 AM

I think they should have to go into 2 ranked matches with a person and lose on purpose. If they disagree with that, their name sticks. If they care so much about BP's that they have to act like a little bitch, then they can be labeled as such. To me, if they wanted to redeem themselves, they will sacrifice the points to me that i rightfully won.

  Anonymous

April 13, 2009 at 6:05 AM

I say leave em up. Good enough to do it, good enough to be shamed for it. Accidentals shoudlnt have to worry as it wont happen again but offenders have a permanent mark against em in the public view :)

  Anonymous

April 14, 2009 at 2:25 AM

personally, i think the blog works just fine. Mistakes are gonna happen though. There may be an inconvient dc or two along the way. But those people usually apologize.

Anyway, maybe there should be some kinda DCer ranking system? I dunno. Kinda like stats for each person reported. So you can tell who frequently does it and who doesn't so people can judge for themselves.

But than again, thats a lot of names. I dunno. In the end, this page should provide encouragement NOT to rage quit. And I'm sure its helped. If even a bit.

  StarNab

April 14, 2009 at 4:29 AM

As everyone said already, just keep up the good work. Your blog is the only remedy I have against quitters : it does ease my mind when facing one cause i know he'll just end up here.

  Diappo

April 14, 2009 at 8:30 AM

Hell, when they disconnected they did it thinking that no one would now what poor sports they are. Now that they got busted they want the proof removed.

I say keep it there unless they redeem themselves or prove it was accidental.

This is not about putting someone to shame, this is about educating the community into be better sports!

  Anonymous

April 14, 2009 at 9:44 AM

Change nothing. This site is excellent and people on the list are only those who clearly disconnected before a loss. Fuck them.

  Anonymous

April 15, 2009 at 7:45 PM

I say you leave them up. It doesn't matter why or how they disconnected. If it was a fluke internet disc, then good, maybe it wont happen again. If they get posted here over and over, well I think its pretty obvious at that point.

  Anonymous

April 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM

I'm sure 99% of the dc's are done on purpose, but yesterday I had 2 disconnects myself. One I was winning, and the other I was losing... Both would seem to the other guy like I did it on purpose. Fortunately, it was a player match, so no harm done, but still... Some of these dc's are indeed real. So there should be a way for a player to redeem himself and get his name off this list. By the way, I'm not in here, if you're wondering...